Video: "You owe us an apology!" The first MAHA Press Conference.
The Language of Evidence Episode 1. Transcript and supporting materials are below.
Welcome to the Language of Evidence. I’m the host, Alex Morozov. I think this is the only time I will be by myself, in the future we will have guests. If any of you want to be a guest, please let me know - you can reach me at alex.morozov@evivapartners.org.
This episode is unusual. I will be releasing the full video recording of a very important event that occurred in Washington, DC on Thursday, February 13. I got invited to it through pure serendipity. It was the press launch of MAHA Alliance, with Senator Ron Johnson, then CEO Del Bigtree, and then Q and A. We will go over what MAHA is - “Make America Healthy Again” - Senator Ron Johnson called it “an enormous and growing movement.” I will also mention that if you think this is about vaccines, you are mistaken. It’s about all of science and medicine.
And if you think that it’s a US-only issue, you are also mistaken. This is a global issue. The majority of clinical research is global. The majority of journal articles are global. Plus they mentioned that they are setting up an organization called “MAHA Worldwide.” So even if you don’t live in the US, I recommend you listen.
And incidentally, this podcast is available in 3 forms: video if you can watch, audio if you prefer (which will have all the necessary information and I will try to describe things for the visually impaired), and a transcript with links if you prefer to read.
One more housekeeping item - please subscribe, like and repost. I am putting this on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.
And one more thing – this podcast will be a little long, maybe 2 hours? But then again, I heard Joe Rogan’s and Lex Fridman’s can be even longer. And I will only cover the first half of the press conference – I will release part 2 next week.
So back to the press conference. Leading media outlets were in the room. I also asked a couple of questions. I’m not sure why it has not been released or described by anyone - either MAHA itself on its website, MAHA.io, or the media. So I thought I would release it myself. It’s too important. Del Bigtree is a long-time friend of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, and with Senator Ron Johnson’s presence, and Calley Means also made an appearance (he was the one who brokered the alliance between Trump and RFK Jr) - it’s clear that this organization is the extra-government extension of RFK Jr. The things the government cannot do, like setting up media outlets, this organization will do.
It’s also important because I consider this press conference the first indication of what we are experiencing with the appointment of RFK Jr as Secretary of Health and Human Services - a revolt against science, medicine and the media. Many people will die.
In fact, I am launching a movement called #MAHAKILLS - opposing the revolt against science, medicine and the media.. If you want to join, please reach out - again, alex.morozov@evivapartners.org - you can do this confidentially if you are afraid of being fired, and I will not disclose your name.
And incidentally, if you have any tips or confidential information, you can send them to me via anonymized email such as proton. In fact people already started to send me those.
This is a difficult time in our country with massive layoffs in the government, uncertainty and gag orders, so this created an eerie silence which many people I spoke to acknowledge. Academics, government, professional associations, industry - everyone is either completely quiet or treading lightly. Given this, I decided to jump into the void.
A bit about myself. I am a Russian Jew, I make a very good Borsch. I was born in Russia and came to the US when I was 18 to go to college. I graduated from MIT with a degree in biology, got a combined MD-PhD from Albert Einstein College of Medicine (where Chuck Schumer was my commencement speaker), did internal medicine residency at Columbia and med onc fellowship at MSKCC in New York. During my fellowship I got interested in drug development. MSKCC was a clinical trial powerhouse. Large proportion of patients were on clinical trials. I remember I spent a year in the pancreas clinic. When I started, I got to know the patients very well - they were coming in frequently for chemotherapy. Then, a few months later I looked around the waiting room and I realized that I didnt know any of the people. That’s how aggressive this disease was. So I decided to go to the pharmaceutical industry because that’s where new drugs are developed.
This was 15 years ago, and I got to oversee over 200 clinical trials and helped with a dozen different regulatory approvals globally, I got to work not just with the FDA but with health authorities around the world. I also got interested in technology and led digital innovation teams.
Then two years ago I lost my job and it took me a few months to find another. In the meantime I decided to write a book about what I do and answer one basic question I had - how come the term “Evidence-Based Medicine” was only coined in 1991? I recently came up with a title - “The Language of Evidence.
I’m so excited, by the way, that I recently got to work with Gordon Guyatt at McMaster University who was the one who actually coined this term. He is one of the most cited scientists alive and is an incredible person. I’m quoting him in my expose called “Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Andrew Wakefield and the ‘Manufacture of Evidence.’” which is posted on evivapartners.org. It’s not the topic of today’s podcast but you should check it out.
And huge thanks to Sheryl Stolberg from the Times for referring to it in her Wednesday article. Unfrortunately this came too late and RFK Jr was still confirmed as Secretary of HHS. But I digress, that’s not the topic of today.
So for my book, I wanted to understand - what did people do before 1991? How did people know what works and what doesn’t? And then when was the first clinical trial? And what is Indigenous Medicine how do people think about evidence there? Covering dark chapters of human experimentation, EBM, Value, and then the future - real-world evidence, patient digital twins, AI, etc. I have an agent now at Janklow and Nesbit and she is amazing. I am trying to finish this as quickly as I possibly can.
In the process I realized that even though I spent 15 years generating medical evidence, I didn’t know what the word actually means. And in fact I’m not alone. We tried to do a survey asking people, “how often do you discuss evidence with your doctor?” - couldn’t do the survey because many people said, “I dont’ know what that means.” They thought evidence is something that is from Law and Order - how you prove that someone is guilty.
So a few months ago I left pharma and started a nonprofit called Eviva Partners with a simple mission - to promote better understanding of evidence. And a simple premise - that a lot of our problems in healthcare, rising costs, poor and unequal outcomes - are due to not understanding how evidence works - patients not understanding why they are being asked to do certain things, doctors not having the time or not knowing how to explain it to patients. So we have big plans to address this that you can see on our website.
So needless to say I was glued to the screen during RFK Jr’s senate confirmation hearings. Towards the end he mentioned a paper that just came out the week before that again attempts to show that vaccines cause autism. I thought, how strange that it just came out the week before. I started looking into this, and ultimately had lunch with Anthony Mawson, the author of this paper, which is described in the white paper on evivapartners.org. Again, that’s not the topic of today. But this experience made me realize that I personally can make a difference in the current events, because of my unique situation:
I’m a technical expert - although not specifically on vaccines; There are much better experts out there, but they are afraid to speak
I’m self-employed and can speak my mind
I’ve been thinking for 2 years about how to explain complex topics around medical evidence.
Then, on Wednesday I saw that Kennedy’s final vote was going to be on Thursday, I jumped on the train and went to DC to sit in the Gallery to watch it in person.
There were very few people there - basically just one group of people and me. As luck would have it, it was the MAHA Alliance team, including Del Bigtree. I didn’t know who he was, but I could tell he was the boss. We ended up chatting, and I saw on their website they are having a press conference at 4pm that day - and I said, can I join? They said, of course! They told me the location.
So at 4pm I showed up.
They started, here was Del Bigtree talking to their communication director and Senator Ron Johnson, their big supporter - more on this later.
So before we jump in to the video, I want to mention again that this press conference was a turning point for me. I got really scared, and that’s where the idea of a revolt against science, medicine and the media popped into my head.
So let’s begin.
(In the transcript, blue text is from Feb 13, and green text is from other sources, and brown are references).
Ron Johnson
“This is a moment of True Hope”
One thing I found out in my recent activity, whether it’s working with doctors, working with COVID-vaccine-injured; or the event I held with Bobby Kennedy and Casey Means and Calley Means and all these nutritionists is… this MAHA movement - there is absolutely nothing partisan about it…
You might wonder, who are Casey and Calley Means? See STAT Oct 7, 24
STAT: With boost from RFK Jr. and Tucker Carlson, two chronic disease entrepreneurs vault into Trump’s orbit - Calley and Casey Means push anti-corporate message to ‘Make America Healthy Again’
Also see the Free Press roundtable from Jan 28:
MAHA: The Coalition of Nutritionists, Shamans, and Moms
Now, what is this roundtable he mentions? That was an event in the Senate Office Building on September 23, 2024 – the video is available on CHD TV (Childrens Health Defense, Kennedy’s antivax organization, has its own online video repository they call TV).
Here is them gathering… Ron Johnson, RFK Jr, Casey and Calley Means. I’m not sure if Del Bigtree is here.
… tirelessly fought to provide the public with the type of information, the type of truth that the american public needs to hear, and many of them bear the scars for simply trying to tell the truth.
He goes on to say that in 2022 he held a similar meeting about COVID – also called “second opinion.” He says it was abou the “Pandemic that was used to frighten and control the public on a global scale.”
“and the medical establishment by large corporate interests” (RFK Jr has almost the same quote in The Real Anthony Fauci)
“This event is to ask questions we have not been allowed to ask. Foundation for changes that have occurred over the last century - sanitation, agriculture, food processing, healthcare industries
And suggestions to put us on a better path.
The status of our health is not good, despite huge spending
Those who question the orthodoxy are ridiculed, vilified, and canceled, with concerted efforts made to destroy their reputations and careers.
We saw this during the pandemic when doctors who had the courage and compassion to treat COVID patients with cheap generic drugs were fired, sued and lost certifications. This intimidation works, most doctors remain silent.”
So you can imagine the excitement on February 13 – finally these people who were indimidated, ridiculed, vilified now have a supporter in the administration and are able to speak freely. So let’s see what is this “truth” that they couldn’t say before.
Back to Feb 13…
Ron Johnson:
“What is driving chronic illness?” What is driving this incredible upsurge in autism? President Trump was speaking about that - there was a 1970s study - it was very hard to conduct this study. That study reveals 1 in 10,000… fast forward to today - 1 in 36, in in 34. in California is 1 in 22. Anyone who knows a family with an autistic child - severely autistic child - it’s a tragedy. These are tragedies that have to be prevented. We need to understand what’s driving - what are root causes of chronic illness. We can’t be afraid to ask those questions.
OK – is that true? And why is that? See attached.
And is it true that we are afraid to ask those questions? Here is a group from Ireland that wrote a whole review on this. It’s very complicated. And by the way no mention of vaccines.
Sauer et al. 2021 - Autism Spectrum Disorders
That’s what’s so unfortunate about the process leading up to this. People like Bobby Kennedy haven’t even been allowed to ask the question without being ridiculed and villified. American people desperately want these answers on a completely nonpartisan basis…
Who are these American people? Because the autism community does not support any further research on the role of vaccines
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I could not find any autism patient advocacy organization that supports additional vaccine research - if anyone knows of such an organization, please let me know. Alex.morozov@evivapartners.org
Bobby Kennedy is dedicated as the Secretary of Health and Human Services to what he describes as “radical transparency.” I’m the chairman now of the permanent subcommittee of investigation. I can tell you in my investigations, the Federal government is opaque. They are far from transparent. And that’s a real problem. The government belongs to “we, the people.” The information the government collects, the analysis it does on the safety and surveillance systems is public information. It shouldn't be withheld.
I am pleased to introduce Del Bigtree from Highwire. A man who has been engaged in radical transparency. Paid the price. I think you have been vilified and ridiculed every now and again. But this is about the truth. This is what the American people not only want, not only demand, butthey completely deserve it. So I am just happy to play a big part here in this enormous and growing movement of “Make America Healthy Again. I’ve been at the forefront of that for many, many years. I have learned so much from Del Bigtree, and I think America will learn so much from Del Bigtree, so my hat’s off to you. Thank you for all you’ve done. Welcome to the stage!
Who is Del Bigtree?
(Also he wrote the foreword to RFK Jr’s 2023 book, Vax/Unvax – let the science speak.)
Del Bigtree:
Senator Ron Johnson has been a lone voice in the wilderness inside of government for many years. And we are eternally grateful for all the hearings that he has done to bring awareness to the reality that is today. It’s very simple. The story has been blown out of proportion. The misleading facts are coming from the mainstream press. The fact is this: vaccine injury is real. It happens. People are injured every single year. Children are maimed and killed every single year by our vaccine program. There are many that will say, “well, it’s rare.” Does that mean we shouldn’t talk about it? Do we talk about rare diseases? Do we try to cure rare diseases? Why is it in this one topic you are ridiculed, attacked, said you are stating misinformation for stating the obvious facts?
My name is Del Bigtree. I’m the CEO of MAHA Alliance: MAHA worldwide, MAHA action…
MAHA Worldwide doesn’t have a website as far as I can tell, but it’s the one to which RFK Jr transferred the trademark for “MAHA” in January.
MAHA Action’s website is MAHA.io.
… but really I’m just one representative of many, many incredible voices and the grass roots movement for medical freedom that started many years ago and now has found real focus in this movement we are calling MAHA. I want to take one moment to thank President Donald Trump. Someone who is the first candidate that we ever saw dare make the statement that vaccines cause autism many years ago.
If you are not familiar with the whole saga of vaccines and autism, there is an episode on the great podcast called “Maintenance Phase” which describes it beautifully.
RFK Jr. and The Rise of the An - Maintenance Phase - Apple Podcasts
One thing I might add in general, and this will be important later – how do we answer this question – do vaccines cause autism?
Well, we could look at the randomized studies, vaccine vs placebo, and look at the rates of autism in each group, or as we call them, “arms” of the study. If you look in Pubmed
(vaccine[Title]) AND ("randomized controlled trial"[Publication Type]) - Search Results - PubMed
There are 6198 randomized trials of vaccines. If you add the word “placebo” to the search, there are 443:
It’s safe to say that none of these showed an increased rate of autism in the vaccine arm vs in the placebo arm, otherwise RFK Jr would have mentioned this in his 2023 book, Vax/Unvax (in which Del Bigtree wrote the foreword). And he does not. The only randomized trial he cites is Fraiman et al, Vaccine, 2022, showing a 16%, “marginally statistically significant” increased risk of all serious adverse events, without any mention of autism.
OK, so now, let’s say autism is rare, and maybe we didn’t pick up the signal in the randomized trials. What else can we do? There are three approaches:
Case-control
Prospective cohort
Retrospective cohort.
There are a couple of great videos for any of you who want to learn more about this.
I will just note here that retrospective cohort is THE design that RFK Jr and Del Bigtree are asking for – because it’s intuitive. But it has limitations, particularly selection bias and recall bias.
Case Control, Retrospective Cohort & Prospective Cohort Studies
Del Bigtree continues about Trump.
… He wanted to do investigations into vaccines. And I’m not talking this last election, but the very first one. And every time he was asked, in different scenarios, he said “I have seen children run across my office, they were healthy, went a got a vaccination, and suddenly were having issues spelling and reading.” We heard those stories over and over again. I’m one of those that has probably heard that story more than most, because I decided to do an investigation. I’m just like you, all of you in the room.
I will not fact-check that, but I don’t think so.
Just a journalist, just a reporter. No, I don’t have a medial degree, but I did work for 6 years on a medical talk show called “The Doctors” where every single week I read medical journals to find stories, breaking news and science, and I learn how to understand, how to read that science and RFK Jr said the very same thing about being a lawyer. When I think where this movement is coming from, what is it? Seeing all the reporting – how far back do we go? RFk Jr began talking about this when he was first asked by parents when it was coming up in environmental hearings when he was talking about mercury in the water. It’s toxic, it’s destroying health. The mothers said, “please look at the vaccines – there is mercury there too. The same thing you are fighting to get out of our water is being injected into our children.”
He is referring to the Thimerosal saga, I won’t go into it, it has been discussed at length.
Thimerosal and Vaccines | Vaccine Safety | CDC
Of course he was reticent because the mainstream media and mainstream medicine scares everyone away from doing any investigation into that. But eventually a mother sat outside of his door with a stack of studies and he could not ignore her.
It’s much like happened to me. I was working on the doctors show and I was tipped off that there was a whistleblower inside the CDC named Dr William Thompson who was willing to come forward to say that they were committing scientific fraud, specifically in the MMR autism study.
This is an old story – BigTree partnered with Andrew Wakefield to release an anti-vax documentary, and RFK Jr wrote a book, “Vaccine Whistleblower”
More here:
I made a documentary ultimately about that – you know the story. I pitched it to my executive producers. I worked for CBS. They said “we will never go anywhere near that story.” We are not going to hurt the relationship with CDC, and we will not go after a product made by Merck – this is one of the companies that funds the show and funds most of TV. As you well know, as you work in television, somewhere between 50 and 75% of advertising comes from the pharmaceutical industry, which is why you are mandated to write the things that you write, and told the things that you cannot write.
Pharma accounts for nearly 90% of the broader (healthcare) industry’s digital ad spending
Even though news coverage has been mostly negative:
Pressed Into Action: Measuring Pharma’s Reputation Reversal –
Themes that were at the top of the list of hot-button issues reported on during the pre-lockdown period were themes that were consistently reported in Pharmaceutical Executive by Porth and Sillup since 2005, led by opioids (40%), high drug prices (27.3%), and interactions with FDA (21%).
Sometimes it takes courage to step out and do an investigation.
Let me show you very quickly where that investigation should start for all of you. These are vaccine inserts. The experts say when Del Bigtree or RFK Jr say that there’s been no placebo-based trials to establish safety prior to licensure, I would bet that none of you reporters ever grabbed one of these and read it. Or if you did, then how did you write that “the experts say that it’s misinformation?” Because it’s written in every single insert that shows up with every single vaccine that you’ve taken and that our children have been given.
A very interesting conversation that happened during the hearings between Rand Paul and Senator Cassidy. Senator Cassidy brought up the importance of the Hep B vaccine, telling an anecdotal story of a young girl that he cared about who was having liver failure. Tragic story. Absolutely. But for RFK Jr and I, and so many people in this room and thousands of parents, there is a story of regression into autism, or seizures, or encephalitis - swelling of the brain – after vaccination, that apparently we are not supposed to care about that story. That child doesn’t matter.
Obviously nobody is saying this. And I again think of the Autism societies that do not care anymore about the vaccine link.
In the conversation, Rand Paul pointed out that Hep B is a sexually transmitted disease. The vaccine was developed for prostitutes and people who were having extreme sexual relations or heroin addicts. And he said “I think a parent should have the right to decide whether to vaccinate their 1-day-old baby, which is when this vaccine is delivered, all across America. You should be able to opt out of the Hep B vaccine since it’s unlikely that in the near future for a day-old baby having extreme sexual intercourse or sharing heroin needles. So what is the purpose?
And of course Senator Cassidy – I’m very glad he had many deep conversations with RFK Jr – but right before our eyes we saw what conversation can happen when reasonable people start talking about an issue they have never been allowed to talk about before. Senator Cassidy in front of TV all across the world had to state, “You know what, you are making a good point. It is a sexually transmitted disease. But in mothers who are Hep B positive, that vaccine is going to save that infant. Senator Rand Paul pointed out, rightfully so, that every mother in America is tested prior to delivering the baby. So they know whether they are positive or not! So why is every woman being forced to give their baby Hep B vaccine when we already know their status? And right there, in front of the world, Senator Cassidy said “You know what, OK – I don’t think a mother should be forced to [vaccinate her infant] it if she is Hep B negative!”
We just watched the first transformation of a medical doctor and an important conversation changing his mind based on available science that – was he unaware of it prior to that conversation? I don’t know. Or had he forgotten about that? I don’t know. But what we did see is a mind being changed. So when people say, “Is RFK Jr going to take the vaccine away?” I would say that RFK Jr is going to begin a conversation for transparency, talking about the actual science that is written in every one of these.
OK, a lot to unpack. First, that’s not how this conversation between Cassidy, a gastroenterologist who has been in the senate for 10 years, and Rand Paul, an ophthalmologist who has been in he senate since 2010. It was not a conversation. Rand Paul said something like, why do we give infants Hep B shots? Those are for drug addicts. So Cassidy then jumped in, even though it was not his turn, and said for the record, that there is a reason – maternal transmission. He also mentioned the grave consequences of an infant becoming Hep B positive – they have a 90% chance of becoming chronically infected, leading to premature death from cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma decades later. Then he admitted that if the mother is Hep B negative, there is less need for a vaccine.
Now, a few important facts that Cassidy did not mention.
The WHO recommends Hep B vaccination for all infants: iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/208278/9789241509831_eng.pdf
What about safety?
The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal
Safety of neonatal hepatitis B vaccine administration
Lewis, Edwin MPH; Shinefield, Henry R. MD; Woodruff, Bradley A.*; Black, Steven B. MD; Destefano, Frank MD; Chen, Robert T. MD; Ensor, Richard MA The Vaccine Safety Datalink Workgroup
The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal 20(11):p 1049-1054, November 2001.
Abstract
Objective.
To determine whether hepatitis B vaccination of newborns increases the incidence of fever and/or suspected sepsis.
Methods.
A prospective clinical study was undertaken at the Kaiser Permanente San Francisco Medical Center involving normal full term newborns born between November 1, 1991, and April 30, 1994. During this time 3302 infants were vaccinated within 21 days of birth with hepatitis B vaccine, and 2353 were not. Clinical and demographic data were collected from Kaiser Permanente’s existing clinical information systems, and laboratory data for blood and cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) cultures were obtained from the comprehensive automated regional laboratory reporting system.
Results.
There were no significant differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated newborns in the proportion of infants who received care for fever (0.8% vaccinated and 1.1% unvaccinated, P = 0.28), allergic reactions, seizures or other neurologic events in the first 21 days of life. Vaccinated newborns were significantly less likely to undergo microbiologic evaluation for possible sepsis. Among vaccinated newborns 4.0% had blood cultures and 1.6% had CSF cultures. Among infants who were not vaccinated 8.3% had blood cultures and 1.6% had CSF cultures (P <0.001 for both tests).
Conclusion.
This study found no evidence that newborn hepatitis B vaccination is associated with an increase in the number of febrile episodes, sepsis evaluations or allergic or neurologic events.
Bottom line: relationship between birth day Hep B vaccination and deaths occurring decades later.
Increasing Birth Day vaccination rates averts deaths. Do we want to become like Africa?
HBV-related deaths averted in each WHO region (mean and 95% credibility intervals) in the birth cohorts for years 2015 to 2050, in the scenario in which timely HepB-BD coverage is scaled up to ≥90% by 2030 in each country (the HepB-BD scale-up scenario) compared to the status quo HepB3 & HepB-BD scenario
So, what does all this mean?
Sen Paul who said Hep B birth dose vaccination should be stopped – doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Sen Cassidy who said can be skipped in Hep B negative women – also doesn’t remember
Anyway, who makes decisions about vaccination during a hearing on an unrelated topic?
Del Bigtree picks this up, and instead of correcting latches on to this and says:
We just watched the first transformation of a medical doctor and an important conversation changing his mind based on available science…
You might say, “well, the experts will explain to him that he is wrong.”
But remember how Sen Ron Johnson talked about “corruption and capture of government agencies, media, medical journals and the medical establishment by large corporate interests”?
RFK Jr says the same thing, and so by the way do Bhattacharia and Makary.
So there will not be any experts that will be able to correct this.
That’s why I am starting the #MAHAKILLS campaign - opposing the revolt against science, medicine and the press.
After his lethal medical advice, he then proceeds to literally yell at the press – NYT, WaPo, NPR, CBS, New Yorker, Politico, Axios – those are just the ones I saw in the room.
How can you say that you are doing your job? Who are you working for? We are supposed to be the 4th branch of government. We are supposed to challenge these things and say “For how many years will we let these injuries happen before someone decides to make a better product or do a study to figure out, is there a test we can do to predict if they are vulnerable to these injuries?”
I’m not sure which injuries he is referring to, but in principle predictive markers of safety is a broad area of research (or was until they started gutting the NIH).
We’ve never studies who these injuries are happening to. Sure, go ask the experts. Just like Tony Fauci who told you social distancing was science, and questioning him was questioning science itself
You see the revolt here against science and medicine – “don’t trust the experts”
Just like “The vaccine stops transmission” which every single one of you wrote. I don’t know how many of you apologized for getting it wrong. But on the Highwire one day, the show that I do online – before anyone received the vaccine, I read the EUA by the FDA. And it said very clearly that this study cannot prove whether or not the vaccine can stop transmission. So what were you writing about? Where was your science? And exactly how do you call the people who got it right “the spreaders of misinformation?” YOU are the spreaders of misinformation! You have gotten it wrong. And America is still waiting for an apology.
Now that’s the revolt against the media. Remember, this guy was just in the oval office this morning. He is speaking with full endorsement of RFK Jr and Trump.
And I just want to show again the famous Kaplan-Meier plot from the Pfizer vaccine NEJM paper that saved the world. Transmission is not really the point.
Apology for what?
Not only Hep B a sexually transmitted disease, or shared by heroin users, so there is no reason for a day 1 old baby to have it, let me show you – I got it blown up for myself. You can go to “FDA-approved vaccines” – just google it, and every single vaccine in our program pops up. This is how easy your investigation could begin. If you decide to be brave enough to do the investigation. And then click on whatever vaccine on the childhood schedule you are curious about, and then open up the “vaccine insert”
This is scary – our healthcare policy is set by someone who is figuring out how to search for package inserts on google? And he doesn’t even know what it’s called – it’s Package Insert.
And the 6.1. – clinical trial experience is written down. There is only one way to prove safety by the way – you have to have a safety baseline. In highschool you should have learned about the double-blind placebo trial. You have to have one group getting the product and one group getting placebo that does not affect the human body in any way. And then we have them both – we track them usually for years when it comes to cancer drugs. It doesn’t matter what kind of cancer, we’re not going to let you try that drug until we’ve proven it safe. Years we follow them. How long do we follow the Hep B vaccine? It says right here – 6.1. – 5 days!
I cannot get much information because this vaccine is very old. But here is a more recently approved vaccine –
Look it up – it’s there. A 5-day safety trial! Not misinformation. Written by the drug manufacturer. I can do this with every single vaccine.
Because of Donald Trump, we had a meeting at the NIH with RFK Jr. And we said why in all of these we cannot find any placebo trials? Are you not doing placebo trials, establishing safety? Or are you just not publishing those trials?
I will answer with a question – you know how you get a generic mediation from the pharmacy? And people always say – it was green before, and now it’s purple – the same medication! Why is that? And the pharmacist explains – because we switched generic manufacturers. Do you want to test each one of them against placebo? There is a certain point when it’s no longer necessary, and “bioequivalence” is enough.
Dr Fauci admitted – we don’t do placebo trials on vaccines. Because it would be unethical.
That must have been some misunderstanding, given that there are 443 placebo-controlled vaccine trials on Pubmed.
Unethical! For a vaccine like Gardasil! The first time they were trying to deal with cancer with a vaccine, they had a BELIEF that it was safe, because they never did a placebo trial to test that it was.
We just had an RSV vaccine that finally had a saline placebo trial and they stopped it because babies were getting sick and it was clear that the vaccine was hurting children. Is that just because it was the first placebo trial we have seen in childhood vaccine?
Let me say this unequivocally. If I ever see you write in your paper that the experts say that a placebo trial was done, then you better print it in that article and send that to me and RFK Jr, because at the NIH Tony Fauci and Francis Collins admitted that “we don’t do them.” So what does that mean? What does that mean for the safety of our babies and our children, that a day 1 old baby is getting a product that we only cared to test for 5 days. Does a healthy child not deserve better than that? Because a cancer patient does. Our grandparents get products that are against placebo for years. Why are our babies not mattering?
By the way, America has the highest rate of first-day baby deaths in the industrialized world. Reported by CBS. Is that caused by Hep B [vaccine]? I don’t know. Is that caused by bad hospitals? Do we not know how to take care of a 1-day-old baby? RFK Jr is about to start investigations into these horrible stats.
Note how he speaks about RFK Jr will do, supporting the idea that he is an extension of the government. Imagine another extra-government agency anticipating a government agency’s next move.
And for anyone that says that there is no such thing as a vaccine injury that’s curious because it’s written right here – it’s written in 6.2 – since you only did a 5-day safety trial, we are left with post-marketing surveillance. I point out nervous system disorders. Buillan-Barre Syndrome. That’s paralysis. MS… myelitis… All paralytic diseases. All written here as being caused by vaccination. Now, you can say “how many?” But is that the only question? Do we actually live in a country where we will actually allow this to happen to anybody, especially a 1-day-old baby? Let me continue – encephalitis! Open up any of these vaccines in the childhood schedule, and you will find encephalitis. Brain swelling! Is it that shocking, really? The vaccine is designed to get your immune system into high gear. That’s why they put neurotoxins like aluminum into vaccines to incite your immune system to swell your body.
This is an ani-vax fear-mongering that will result is dramatic drops in vaccination rates, and deaths. Again, #MAGAKILLS.
And if you are unfortunate enough that this swelling happens in your brain, you are at risk for symptoms of brain swelling, which – yes – can be autism.
I will stop here to release part 1, and will release part 2 soon. But in conclusion, as I mentioned throughout,
we see here a revolt against science, medicine and the media.
The medical establishment has been delegitimized
People with a known history of manufacturing evidence are now in charge (see my white paper).
People in charge lack basic expertise – searching things on google and misunderstanding basic medical concepts.
I shared the highlights with friends and colleagues in the last couple of days. Result has been shock and disbelief. I have spoken to infectious disease and public health experts. Three things are clear:
Everyone is shell-shocked and afraid to speak up;
There is no organized, centralized effort to develop any kind of counter-strategy;
There is increasing acceptance of the fact that “many people will have to die before there can be change.”
I am an optimist – I refuse to believe this. Which is why I ask:
Please spread this podcast far and wide – forward, like and repost;
Feel free to get involved to help confidentially;
If you know anyone who is strategizing about a response, please send them my way.
This has been the first episode of The Language of Evidence.


























